Podcast Ep.#3 – U.F.O Encounters- Hooligan Hijinks or Higher Intelligence + My U.F.O. Sightings

This episode circles around the seemingly, sometimes bag and tag approach of E.T.’s as reported by some abductees. Are these really entities of higher intelligence or simply a case of “there is one in every crowd” Plus my 2 U.F.O. sightings which took place near my home and occurred once with my daughter and another time with Molly the dog. Episode 3 Orbicle Times Podcast release date: June 15, 2022.


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UFO Encounters – Higher Intelligence or Hooligan Hijinks?

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In the past year or so, one of the areas that I have been looking into is the possible connections between my experiences with spirit orb visitations, UFOs and consciousness. I, with much hesitation will now tell you about my 2 UFO sightings. I have only spoken about these experiences, at the very most, a handful of times and that was in part due to my inquiries into such possible connections.

I am now ready to write about these experiences, although with trepidation. I suppose this acknowledgement on my part may cause some of you to label me as a tin-hat wearer. Believe it or not these encounters were not a high-light in my life however, I have always believed in UFOs. It has always mystified me as to why many do not believe.

But first…

My overall feelings about reported encounters are, in general, one of interest but also concern. Don’t get me wrong, I am not talking on the same scale of concern as say R. Reagan, although that in and of itself is concerning. I have concerns about some of the reported methods that are utilized to make contact.

I used the word “contact” as an overall descriptive instead of denoting each example with the “close encounter” “…terminology and the system of classification behind it [which was] first suggested in THE astronomers and UFO researcher J. Allen Hynek’s 1972 book The UFO Experience: A Scientific Inquiry” (Wiki). Hynek’s scale consists of three types of encounters: 1st encounter deals with someone seeing a UFO (me). The 2nd, an alleged physical effect occurred (mechanical interference, ringing in the ear, radiation effects etc.), The third; UFO encounter involves an entity that is animated.

Side note: According to Wiki, Hynek’s scale did not include abductions nor a scale for encounters of the fourth or fifth kind.

A few thoughts on some of those methods.

If you are to believe experiencers, some of those attempted or successful methods of contact range from trespassing, B&E, or is that more like materialize and enter, abduction/kidnapping, mind control/ memory lapse/ missing time, drug induced like states .. This goes beyond your informal, still possibly traumatic, fly-by introduction, straight to criminal activity and yes, I am going to use the “probe” word a.k.a. assault and torture and let’s not forget the adults who remembered that they were taken as children? More than plausible psychological trauma all-around. Talk about PTSD.

Perhaps many of those experiencers did not get a chance to read How to Defend Yourself Against Alien Abduction by Ann Druffel, since it was published in 1998 and it seems that there were more reported abductions not just sightings, prior to that year. However, I may be wrong.

I have not read that book in its entirety but do not have the impression that this is a blame the victim approach but perhaps a…you can wear what you want but unfortunately you may have a desire to know how to defend yourself just in case approach. In her own words Druffel writes ” But in particular, [the book] is for those who are seeking help in unwelcomed interaction with unidentified ‘visitors.’”

She provides Resistance techniques #1-9 ( so then resistance is not futile?) formulated from common generalizations of experiencers, that range from mental struggle to protective rage and ends with repellents, I believe her techniques were based on some case studies of experiencers which she categorized into six groups. Her studies uncovered a segment from that group which had reported successful resistance strategies.

I imagine that many experiencers struggle with mental health and require services for the after and ongoing residual effects from such encounters. Back in 1988 Ann Druffel wrote an article addressing abductee support groups. But where to go?

Today, many are hitting the “digital air waves”. Shows that deal with such subject matter as UFOs, spirits, cyrtids, etcetera, whether intentionally or not, have become platforms for a type of armchair therapy. Listeners are finding a stigma free zone platform for the telling of such experiences, resulting in the recognition by others of mirrored experiences and cumulating in the courage to include their story and thus creating a “community” in the telling of.

The reported methods that have been stated to be utilized in some encounters, whether one believes in those types of narratives or not – are extreme, Could this really be, as some believe, a case of higher intelligence,? If that is true, why would a higher intelligence, at times, stoop to the level of a bag, tag and release mentality. Perhaps these are the intergalactic conservationists, performing their scientific methodologies on us for the betterment of mankind and our planet or are these a type of hooligans’ hijinks? Perhaps like us, they too have their “bad apple” and “there is one in every crowd” scenario. Not sure.

Perhaps these are, as John Mack, Pulitzer Prize-winning biographer and Harvard professor claims, “layered motions of reality. ‘ “The question really to ask is, what is there in us, what worldview, if you will, are we encased in that requires that we reduce this to some kind of brain physiology?” ‘ (The Washington Post). Layered motions of reality is a “…theory that tends to be reinforced by interviews with people who believe they’ve been abducted by aliens” ‘ (T.W.P.).

Hard to believe that such encounters might be for our own good, however, many experiences also report that such methods and perhaps the less extreme versions have resulted in a range of positive benefits such as; a “download” of certain types of information, improved health outcomes for themselves or others, higher consciousness, telepathic and psychic abilities. Psychologist such as Dr. Leo Sprinkle, who hypnotically regressed abductees starting as far back as 1968, ‘ “…believes that the aliens are kind and gentle “cosmic citizens” who are attempting to help the Earth with its various problems…” ‘ ( Chapman University) Some experiencers have or hope to have continued contact and let’s not forget the other paranormal events that, although might be considered a negative, seem to at times, surround such types of sightings. A coincidence – What do you think?

I am not combing through piles of information on all the types of experiences that have been reported. My information source, for the most part, has been podcasts and docs, perhaps not the greatest research techniques however, there seems to be a decent volume of and similarities within the narratives of those who have had such experiences, a.k.a. experiencers. In light of that, please forgive my examples which no doubt will inevitably have omissions regarding the different, whether positive of negative, types of encounters.

If some of these encounters involve beings of intelligence then surely by now these entities are aware of how introductions are to be carried out. But, perhaps not. Could this be a case of cover memories. Could experiencers have implanted memories curtesy of these entities for some other reason?

Well, I never had any close encounters (at least not that I have been able to remember). I only had two UFO sightings, which again were nothing to write home about and since they happened near my home what is the point. So, I will write about them here, for reasons I mentioned earlier, as long as I do not get side tracked…again.

To Be Continued…in part 2

And now on with the telling of the first of my two UFO sightings

The encounters happened at my home, so they occurred sometime in the last 14 years.  The first time it was with my daughter it was summer late afternoon heading towards supper. I think the timeline may have been 8-10 years ago.  I am just not sure.

Background about my first encounter, which included my daughter.  The front of my home faces North, I live on the south side of that street. The street in front travels east/west. East on our street, dead-ends with a street going north/ south.  My daughter and I were on our veranda/porch.  We ended up on the street looking East, staring at this very bright yellow circular light that was hovering in the sky.  There was no noise, no visual vibration that I recall.

Distance is a tricky thing, so …  “small town blocks” can be different than city blocks in terms of length. Maybe this light was the equivalent to 1 city block away from us.  ITS’ light did not hurt our eyes.  We only had to lift our eyes up not our head to see it.

 If you are inclined to look up towards the sun, which one should not.  But, if you looked up, you would need about two adult hand widths with outstretched arms to cover and protect yourself from dangerous visual effects –so what we were looking at would have easily taken 3-4 hands across and or 2-3 down and I think even then, I would have been able to still see its’ illumination. 

We had been sitting on our porch and at some point I noticed this light from the corner of my eye and my daughter said “what the heck is that a UFO?, that is crazy”.  We walked into the middle of the road, not a busy street so.. looked around hoping to see someone else outside to provide confirmation on what we were seeing, but there was no one.  It was quite. 

I did not feel good looking at it, knowing it was there.  My daughter wanted to walk towards it and my thought was why walk towards something potential dangerous for curiosity’s sake.  I was Kurt with her and told to get in time for super soon or something like that.  And we really did not discuss it much further.  She went back out onto the porch a little later, I would say within 15 minutes and it was still there.  It has only been within the eight months or so that her and I really discussed what had occurred. 

I was never willing to call it a UFO because it did not fly but hovered and when I say hovered, I do not remember any motion occurring within it.  It was not until about a year or so ago, I heard someone on a podcast describing a similar encounter that they had which made me think perhaps what I/ we saw was more than just a ball of light!

2ND Encounter

My second UFO “encounter” – timeline, somewhere around 6- years ago and is told to the best of my recollection.

I was going out, by myself one night to walk Molly the dog.  It was late for me to be walking her; I usually walked her when there was light or earlier in the evening.  I think it was between 10-11pm.  I left the house and recall how quiet it was, well this was probably due to the fact that it was; night and a slight mist/fog was in the atmosphere.  Not typical weather for southern Ontario, almost a novelty.

I walked one of my three usual routes that I always did with my dog.  That night, because it was later in the evening, it was going to be a shorter walk.  I headed west on my street, passed two homes arrived at the corner turned left/south passed the first house that was on my left and for some unknown reason I was compelled to looked up. 

The area in question has a house, which I passed, that has a very small driveway beside it, just enough for one car.  In addition, right beside that, is another house, so there is not much space in between these 2 homes.  Nothing of interest, no trees there, no noise, nothing that should have enticed me to gaze upward.  

Anyways, I looked up, the atmosphere was something between a light mist and fog or frist, is that a word? ,When I led up I saw, 3 lights in the sky and only lights, they were not blinding or blinking and perhaps due to the atmosphere conditions I could not see the object that these lights may have been housed in.  The best way I can describe it is… it was like looking into three separate smoky glass dome shaped set of lights.  More than focusing on the number of lights, I focused on the shape of them.

In an instant my brain knew this was not normal, how was I seeing such a thing, this for me was an UFO.  I could not say how high these were because although the lights looked big, there was slight  mist  the air. My impression was that the lights were housed within the same unit, not sure, why I thought that.  Why not three separate ones?

I received such an adrenaline rush, felt my heart racing, felt like my legs were going to give out.  I felt panic setting in-It was either flight or freeze and I certainly was not going to fight  just standing there, I turned and ran, with dog on leash back to my house, out of breath from the experience, even though it was literally just around the block, I “crashed” through the door.  I told my husband what just happened and he said more or less, “okay your home now no worries”.  Nothing too much more was said.

Now, mostly due to orb visitations, I am on the hunt for the connection between supernatural, UFOs, consciousness-connection, and all that good stuff. 

If you have had an encounter with UFOs and the like and would like to be on this cast, or have your story read on my podcast send me an email at orbicletimespodcast@gmail.com


Vick, K. (1995, May 9). UFO abduction tales not quite so alien. The Washington Post. Retrieved March 6, 2022, from https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1995/05/09/ufo-abduction-tales-not-quite-so-alien/17a7f5f3-99f7-4755-a748-17a6e7b2567f/

Druffel A. How to Defend Yourself against Alien Abduction. Three Rivers ; London; 1999.Chapman University, Digital, March 12, 2022, The UFOs Contact Movement from the 1950’s to the Present

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